Salaries for New Prof/Tech Writers with Hard Science Minor?
Kimball, Miles
miles.kimball at ttu.edu
Fri Apr 27 08:44:18 MDT 2007
As Saul's message suggests, quantification is always desirable, but not
always so easy to come by. Tracking the performance of graduates is a
tricky proposition within a single program, much less across programs,
because former students are often so difficult to track down (even
shortly after graduation).
Of course that doesn't mean we shouldn't try. Many programs already make
at least an attempt at tracking graduate performance, and some do a good
job at it. The difficulty then would be consistency - I don't think most
programs explicitly track whether their graduates have double majors or
technical minors.
Maybe we should create a list of desired metrics we could publish to
program directors through CPTSC. We could ask them to participate in
developing a database model for tracking graduates so we can compare
outcomes across institutions. This wouldn't overlap with the STC survey
necessarily, and could add some valuable data to the current discussion
as well as to other questions.
Miles Kimball
Texas Tech
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[mailto:bounce-stc-ac-277407 at lists.stc.org] On Behalf Of Barker, Thomas
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Science Minor?
Yes, it makes sense, except that the salary survey has a pretty narrow
focus. And my guess is that the STC office may not want to expand it.
(We're waiting to see.) What about the STC Academic Community doing a
more extensive survey where we could ask these and other very important
questions about our work, our educational product, our students and the
nature of our workplace. This could cover curricular details like this,
and the many other items that might not make it on to the survey.
Dr. Thomas Barker
Manager, STC Academic Community
thomas.barker at ttu.edu
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[mailto:bounce-stc-ac-264184 at lists.stc.org] On Behalf Of Boiarksy
Carolyn
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 8:54 AM
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Subject: [stc-ac] Re: Salaries for New Prof/Tech Writers with Hard
Science Minor?
Thanks. This makes a great deal of sense.
Carolyn
"Barker, Thomas" <thomas.barker at ttu.edu> wrote:
This discussion seems to be focused exclusively on reporting
anecdotal
data.
But we're a group of academics and researchers and, as a result,
should
be demanding stronger evidence than that, even if it does not
yet exist.
Although it will not provide an immediate response, I have
suggested to
the STC Office that they include questions about double-majors
and
minors in the next salary survey, and analyze the data to see if
that
has an effect. If they collect this data, we'll have a more
empirically-based response for the future.
Saul
Saul Carliner, Ph.D., CTDP
Assistant Professor
Graduate Program in Educational Technology Concordia University
1455 Boulevard de Maisonneuve Ouest
Montreal, Quebec H3G 1M8
Canada
514-848-2424 x 2038
saulcarliner at gmail.com
http://education.concordia.ca/~scarliner
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