Ad mixed in with resumes on Employment site

Wed Mar 8 05:03:47 MST 2006

At 05:19 PM 3/7/2006, John Gough wrote:
>I agree.  As a separate test, Andy Rogers could weigh in.  He typically 
>operates as an individual but (I believe) subs out on occasion.  He used 
>to have a listing on the Agencies page, though I don't see one now.

In the process of updating the agencies list, I took an approach of my own 
perception of the agencies possible usage, from the view of a jobseeker. I 
did also injected a certain amount of "bias" if you want to call it. The 
list had not been updated in maybe four years.  I know of at least two 
people who said they attempted to update the Agencies page before me, but 
ultimately did not change the page.

For each of the agencies listed before update, I went to links, if listed. 
If not listed, or if resultant 404, I googled till I found the company or 
its new incarnation, then usually went to Contact info to confirm and 
update web info.

One of the criteria I applied was that the agency have a website. I made 
one exception--Volt, as I have seen various job notices from them 
throughout years, whether through job boards or whatever. I did not contact 
any agencies and request updates or ask for addition or dropping. It was a 
huge job to do what I had done, and I don't care to revisit the process at 
least till next season.

I can only prioritize so much, and most recently has been to polish the job 
posting archives and bring up the topic of the salary survey. FWIW, the 
Agencies page does say to contact Employment if there are corrections or 
additions. Have not heard a peep.

I don't know what the policy is about ad purchase. Seems a few years ago, 
we put in an ad for a company in Israel. As treasurer, I took in the money, 
but I don't know how the ad was executed.

John, I appreciate your comment about dropping them if they've 
subcontracted. How do I/we find out? Also, does anyone have knowledge about 
STC Austin ad stuff on the website for policy we can point out to?

Wanda

>All listings on the resumes page should be resumes.  What that means is 
>that the person whose name is on the resume is offering his or her 
>individual services for hire...to Cheri's point, hiring managers make 
>decisions on whether to engage individuals or agencies.  It is important 
>that we support that decision by keeping those listings separate.
>
>I would not have a problem with each of the two-person shop's principals 
>having a resume on the resume page *and* a listing under their company 
>name on the Agencies page.  They would need to understand that by listing 
>on the Resumes page they are offering their individual services and that 
>they would not be free to sub out or switch if they listed this way.
>
>If I heard a complaint that the resume was being treated as bait and that 
>subcontractors were hired to do work, I would de-list the resume on the 
>grounds that it did not meet the intent of the Resumes page.
>
>Hope that helps.
>John
>
>At 03:46 PM 3/7/2006 -0600, you wrote:
>>As a person who accepts resumes frequently, I want to go to the STC site and
>>see individual's resumes. If it's a company, I want to see an ad for the
>>company.
>>
>>
>>________________________________
>>
>>  GENBAND Inc.
>>
>>Cheri Mullins
>>Director, Information Development
>>GENBAND Inc.
>>12303 Technology Blvd.
>>Austin, Texas 78727
>>512.681.5540
>>512.681.5541 fax
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: David Cramer [mailto:david at thingbag.net]
>>Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 3:21 PM
>>To: STC Austin Administrative Discussion List
>>Cc: STC Austin Administrative Discussion List
>>Subject: [stc-austin-admin] Re: Ad mixed in with resumes on Employment site
>>
>>I dunno, where do you draw the line for independent contractors...is a two
>>man contracting shop really more of a company then one person willing to do
>>contracting work? It's not quite the same as an agency, though we already
>>list them for free elsewhere:
>>http://www.stcaustin.org/employment/agencies.html
>>
>>David
>>
>>Cheri Mullins wrote:
>>
>> > Wanda,
>> >
>> > I was looking on our employment site and opened Allen Jones' "resume."
>> > It appears to be an ad for his company rather than a resume. We should
>> > handle this differently than resumes. This is really an ad for
>> > "Allen-Jones Information Technology," disguised as a resume. We need
>> > to pull this.
>> >
>> >     Allen-Jones Information Technology
>> >     921 Brandi Cir.
>> >     Kyle, TX 78640
>> >     512-804-5324
>> >     chrisallen at dancinghat.com <mailto:chrisallen at dancinghat.com>
>> >
>> >     We communicate complicated technical concepts in a concise,
>> >     easy-to-understand manner.
>> >     Award-winning Technical Communicators with a passion for
>> >     information delivery technology. We are skilled in planning,
>> >     managing, developing, and editing communications for print,
>> >     online, and Web delivery.
>> >
>> > *Contract Only (Non-STC Members)*
>> >
>> >     * Allen Jones TEXT
>> >       <http://www.stcaustin.org/jobbank/resumes/Allen_Jones.txt>, HTML
>> >       <http://www.stcaustin.org/jobbank/resumes/Allen_Jones.html>
>> > 5-1-06
>> >
>> >
>> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > --
>> > General Bandwidth Inc.
>> >
>> > Cheri Mullins
>> > Director, Information Development
>> > General Bandwidth
>> > 12303 Technology Blvd.
>> > Austin, Texas 78727
>> > 512.681.5540
>> > 512.681.5541 fax
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